My VLCD experiment that started about 7 weeks ago gradually lead to a diet pretty similar to yours, about 500 kcal short every day estimated from my recent weight loss. This probably amounts to about 1000 kcal less than I used to eat to keep my weight. I also compensate for the exercise now. Anything lower than that seems to make me lethargic unless I take ridiculous amounts of stimulants. Replacing some of my meals with powder products helps to keep the intake low, since there are fewer real meals where I have to watch what I eat.
Regarding your speculations about metabolic rate, I get cold much easier now. I wake up freezing if I don’t put enough clothing on at night. This has never happened before. Of course, fat keeps you warm too.
Yes, I imagine that you could transition from a diet into moderate calorie restriction. I didn’t really discuss my thoughts about dieting since it wasn’t a diet post and also weight loss is necessarily a temporary process.
You could also read my comment as “severe calorie restriction didn’t work for me that long, not even for weight loss”. If I couldn’t keep it up longer than a couple of weeks even when I had excess fat, it’s unlikely I would be able to keep it up when thin.
You could also read my comment as “severe calorie restriction didn’t work for me that long, not even for weight loss”
Well I wouldn’t call what you did “severe calorie restriction,” since it doesn’t really fit into any of my definitions. Eating less than your caloric needs is necessarily a temporary situation.
If I couldn’t keep it up longer than a couple of weeks even when I had excess fat
Well my post assumes that one has control over one’s eating. If you cannot control your eating, then calorie restriction for longevity is kind of a moot point for you.
I actually have some ideas about how one can control one’s eating but I am disinclined to share them here until I am more satisfied that they work. Too many people go online to kvell about their diet strategy only a few months in to their diet. That’s arguably the equivalent to releasing software which hasn’t even been alpha tested.
Too many people go online to kvell about their diet strategy only a few months in to their diet. That’s arguably the equivalent to releasing software which hasn’t even been alpha tested.
Perhaps you’re right. I’ll not bother you further.
You could also read my comment as “severe calorie restriction didn’t work for me that long, not even for weight loss”. If I couldn’t keep it up longer than a couple of weeks even when I had excess fat, it’s unlikely I would be able to keep it up when thin.
I took that to mean that you engaged in calorie restriction sufficient to result in weight loss but were psychologically unable to stick with it. i.e. you were unable to control your eating.
Perhaps you’re right. I’ll not bother you further.
It’s up to you, but we need to be clear about what we are discussing. There’s a difference between calorie restriction—as I have defined it—and dieting.
My VLCD experiment that started about 7 weeks ago gradually lead to a diet pretty similar to yours, about 500 kcal short every day estimated from my recent weight loss. This probably amounts to about 1000 kcal less than I used to eat to keep my weight. I also compensate for the exercise now. Anything lower than that seems to make me lethargic unless I take ridiculous amounts of stimulants. Replacing some of my meals with powder products helps to keep the intake low, since there are fewer real meals where I have to watch what I eat.
Regarding your speculations about metabolic rate, I get cold much easier now. I wake up freezing if I don’t put enough clothing on at night. This has never happened before. Of course, fat keeps you warm too.
Yes, I imagine that you could transition from a diet into moderate calorie restriction. I didn’t really discuss my thoughts about dieting since it wasn’t a diet post and also weight loss is necessarily a temporary process.
You could also read my comment as “severe calorie restriction didn’t work for me that long, not even for weight loss”. If I couldn’t keep it up longer than a couple of weeks even when I had excess fat, it’s unlikely I would be able to keep it up when thin.
Well I wouldn’t call what you did “severe calorie restriction,” since it doesn’t really fit into any of my definitions. Eating less than your caloric needs is necessarily a temporary situation.
Well my post assumes that one has control over one’s eating. If you cannot control your eating, then calorie restriction for longevity is kind of a moot point for you.
I actually have some ideas about how one can control one’s eating but I am disinclined to share them here until I am more satisfied that they work. Too many people go online to kvell about their diet strategy only a few months in to their diet. That’s arguably the equivalent to releasing software which hasn’t even been alpha tested.
That’s not what I said.
Perhaps you’re right. I’ll not bother you further.
You seem to have implied it:
I took that to mean that you engaged in calorie restriction sufficient to result in weight loss but were psychologically unable to stick with it. i.e. you were unable to control your eating.
It’s up to you, but we need to be clear about what we are discussing. There’s a difference between calorie restriction—as I have defined it—and dieting.