Like, the one from youtube. But not the sexy model one. I do modeling, but it’s all in my head.
keltan
Are there plans to expand this further if the Beta runs well?
I feel like I’m watching Bluey
IMO I’d feel a lot better if it was less angryish. I think there probably is something like a protest that I can imagine working. I’m not sure if I’d call it a protest? Unless, have you got example protests?
I can image a “change my mind” type of stall/stalls. Where people have calm conversations to explain the situation to the public.
That’s interesting that you don’t consider it a “”weird” thing to protest”.
I guess I want to explicitly point that part out and ask if you stand by the statement? Or maybe I define weird differently? To me weird inside this context means:
“A thing or action that is out of the ordinary in a way that someone encountering it for the first, second, or third time, wouldn’t see as quirky. But as a red flag. If not pre-attached to that thing or person performing the action, a the person seeing it for the first time might form a negative opinion based on the feeling they get seeing it”
I see the Pause AI protests and I cringe. They give me the same feeling I get when I see vegans walk into McDonald’s covered in blood. It feels like: “oh, look. A group that I am a part of is now going to be tied to this small groups actions. That kinda sucks because I wouldn’t do that myself. Totally get their feeling though. Good for them sorta maybe, but also please stop.”
I understand that Scott Alexander talked about PETA and animal ethics a while ago. But I think AI safety has an opportunity right now to take a different approach than PETA had to.
People are already scared. This doesn’t impact “the other” this impacts them. Make that clear. But make it clear is a way that your uncle won’t laugh at over Christmas dinner.
Edit: I just reread this and feel it was a bit harsh on the PAI people. I’m sorry about that. I’d like to point to Chris_Leong’s comment below. It offers something that feels like a better critique than the one I made originally.
I feel like I just walked through a mirror maze and got socked in the nose a couple of times.
In other words, I saw myself, and it hurt.
Possible pseudoscientific downside here:
I have often read that if you’d like to make your voice deeper, humming deeply helps quite a lot. Which means I’d expect the opposite to be true if you’re humming high. That’s a downside or an upside depending on who you are and what you want.
Again, I DON’T KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE. BUT IT SEEMS VAGUELY BELIEVABLE TO ME
To bypass the XKCD problem. Maybe we have marketing people who know a lot about ai for the average person, but only very little compared to the average ai researcher?
My understanding is phytoestrogens are plant hormones. If you’d like to intake more animal oestrogen I believe cows milk contains quite a bit.
Anecdotally, I’ve been drinking soy milk every day for ~2 years now. I sometimes go for a week or two eating Tofu as my primary food. I really don’t think it’s a problem.
I however don’t want to comment on soy oil. I don’t have enough info about that.
That’s very true. I remember seeing Sam talk in Melbourne a year ago when he was on the “world tour”. Talking about people getting emotionally attached to or using GPT for therapy made him clearly uncomfortable. Or, that’s what he seemed to be signaling. I really did believe that it made him incredibly squeamish.
I’ve been thinking about “shortening the way” a lot lately. I’m really glad to see someone else is too.
I did a super rapid, 20 minutes, collect as many data sources about this as possible a few weeks ago. I still haven’t audited them. But there they are anyway. They’re all markdown still bc I’m typing on mobile. Apologies.
I’m just finishing up an intro to physics course for university this semester. I self taught math last year. So I was expecting the hardest part to be the math itself. But actually the hardest part was similar to the start of “what else is there to say”. Understanding that formulas are written with different symbols depending on who is writing them and how they are feeling that day.
Like, why can (s) represent:
Seconds
Time itself
Distance
Displacement
Probably a few other things I’m forgetting
The hand rules for magnetic fields all called different things by different people. What!?
Still not finished reading this post. But I’m really enjoying it so far. Hope to see you at LessOnline!
Man, I wish that was my experience. I feel like I’m constantly asking GPT4o a question, getting a weird or bad response. Then switching to 4 to finish the job.
Hmmm, I think the original post was an interesting idea. I think your comment points to something related but different. Perhaps taboo words?
I’ve seen a lot about GPT4o being kinda bad, and I’ve experienced that myself. This surprises me.
Now I will say something that feels like a silly idea. Is it possible that having the audio/visual part of the network cut off results in 4o’s poor reasoning? As in, the whole model is doing some sort of audio/visual reasoning. But we don’t have the whole model, so it can’t reason in the way it was trained to.
If that is the case, I’d expect that when those parts are publicly released, scores on benchmarks shoot up?
Do people smarter and more informed than me have predictions about this?
I haven’t, but I’ll take a look. I appreciate the recommendation!
I wouldn’t say I have a good grasp on Nutrition either. But spent a bit of time last year making sure I could parry any uncomfortable comments about my nutrition my family might make because of my veganism.
It seems the main thing is B12. Even the hard core vegan types, who don’t want to give an inch to the “other side”will admit this one is necessary. That makes me believe it really is.
What I’ll say in this next paragraph might be very wrong. If someone sees this and can call me on anything I’m wrong about, I’d love that.
Before going vegan I took fish oil. That’s because I’d heard Omega 3 was “beneficial for brain function”. That carried over when I went vegan, but I mostly ate walnuts as my source. Then I learnt that there are 3 Omega 3 Acids. (I should have noticed my confusion about that “3”, but I was not a rationalist at the time). I then learnt that ALA gets converted into EPA or another chemical. So by skipping ALA and going straight to DHA you potentially don’t lose anything.
Looking back on this, I think when I’m nearing the end of my current DHA supply I might need to take another look at Omega 3 and its functions. Something about it still feels a little off.
I’d like to see people who are more informed than I am have a conversation about this. Maybe at Less.online?
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/zAqqeXcau9y2yiJdi/can-we-build-a-better-public-doublecrux
Only bc I’m vegan. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t be supplementing it.
I wish I could say I had a more accurate model. But my understanding doesn’t go deeper than DHA = Myelin = Faster processing
Was this purely a question? Or is there something I should look into here?
Hi! Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a considered response to my ramble of a comment.
Your first question is a hard one to express in text. Instead, I’ll try hard to write a list of requirements for a situation to generate that feeling for me. Then you might be able to image a scenario that meets the requirements and get a similar feeling?
Requirements:
I must deeply care about the core idea of the subject. For example, I deeply care about animals not coming to harm, or about the world being destroyed by ASI.
I must disagree with the way it is being protested. For example, the use of loudspeakers, or shouting. Seeming angry gives a sense of irrationality, even if the idea itself is rational.
I have only seen this in twitter feed context
I am already scared of the reaction my employer, family, or friends would have if I expressed the idea. For example, I’m afraid when I have to tell a waiter at a restaurant that I’m vegan, because it is a “weird” idea. “Weird” defined above.
What I’ve seen:
Again, just on twitter
Extremely small protest groups reminds me of all the antivax or 5G protests I’ve seen irl
Loudspeakers and yelling
Leaders on loudspeakers addressing individual open AI employees from outside of gates. In what seems to be a threatening tone. While not necessarily being threatening in context.
Protestors not taking the inferential distance into account. Which I assume would lead to a confused public. Or individuals presuming the protestors are Luddites.
Thank you again for your reply. I enjoyed having to make this as explicit as possible. Hopefully it helps make the feeling I have clearer.
And thanks you for doing something. I’m not doing anything. I think something is better than nothing.